Thus Saith Paul - Romans 15

Thus Saith Paul

Romans Chapter Fifteen

"Thou Shalt Entice Thy Neighbour"

by Nikki


    Romans 15:1-3 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves. :2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification. :3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

I did a little word search on the term: "we that are strong." Here's what I found:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/1/1088263419-7265.html

dunatos {doo-nat-os'}

TDNT Reference Root Word
TDNT - 2:284,186 from 1410
Part of Speech adj
Outline of Biblical Usage

1) able, powerful, mighty, strong

a) mighty in wealth and influence

b) strong in soul

1) to bear calamities and trials with fortitude and patience

2) strong in Christian virtue

2) to be able (to do something)

a) mighty, excelling in something

b) having power for something

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 35
AV - possible 13, able 10, mighty 6, strong 3, could 1,
power 1, mighty man 1; 35

Thayer's Lexicon says the following:

*able, powerful, mighty , strong
*absolutely - mighty in power and influence
*chief men

The word, INFIRMITY, has the following definition:

asthenema {as-then'-ay-mah}

1) infirmity

a) of error arising from weakness of mind

* NOTE: This first statement of Paul's is a carry over from his Romans 14 (false) teaching, so if you haven't already read Romans 14, please do so now, then return here. 

Paul says, "we that are strong," should bear the infirmities of the weak. This sounds wonderful, since we should help those who are weaker than ourselves, or those in need, if we are able.  I hope you've read Romans 14 already, or this may not make much sense to you.  What does Paul mean by "we that are strong," bearing up those who are weak?  He means that EATING ALL THINGS and giving no thought to days; eg. feast days of Yahweh, PROVES how strong our FAITH is, and that those who keep the food laws of Yahweh and who observe His feasts, are WEAK.  According to the above definitions, the term, "we that are strong," also means men of influence, power and wealth- the "chief ones." In other words, those who control through political/financial power and influence over the "weak," who are the poor, "uneducated," NON-ELITE! 

With the true context in mind, now we can see clearly what Paul means by "edification."  It's not edification in the WORD and by the TRUTH that he's referring to, but rather, edification in HIS OWN LAWLESS DOCTRINE.  If someone comes into the fellowship of PAULINES, yet has questions regarding Yah's law- eg. the laws about food and about His Sabbaths, festivals, etc., they are considered WEAK in faith and need to be seduced much more gently/subtly away from keeping Yahweh's commandments and into eating things sacrificed to idols.  That's exactly what Paul is REALLY saying in this first blurb of Romans 15.  Again, please read Romans 14 before continuing.

Paul instructs everyone to "please his neighbor for his good to edification." How?  Without telling your neighbor the truth about who Yahweh is and what He really said, and about His Son and what HE really said, all you're doing is deceiving him, because you, yourself, are deceived.  We already discussed, in Romans 14, how the whole world is smoked into following LIES and into justifying EACH OTHER in wickedness, through PAUL and many others.  We also discussed how we can't please our neighbors by speaking the WORD since the world (in general) can't stand hearing the truth. 

Here, Paul again uses the Name of "Christ" as his authenticator- to give merit to what he's actually saying against Yahshua.

Romans 15:3 For even Christ pleased not himself; but, as it is written, The reproaches of them that reproached thee fell on me.

It's true that Yahshua was the "servant of all," and that Yahweh chose Yahshua to bear our iniquities.

Isaiah 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Yahshua came to show us the way called LIFE and how to walk in it, according to the truth.  But what does that have to do with PAUL?  Paul doesn't speak Yah's truth.  Yahshua did.  Again, Paul is trying to quote David's words, but using the scripture in "self-defense."  According to Paul, David meant that the reproaches of those who oppose PAUL and others like Paul, fell on YAHSHUA!!  Is that really what DAVID MEANT?  Let's see.

Psalms 69:7-13 Because for thy sake I have borne reproach; shame hath covered my face. :8 I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children. :9 For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me. :10 When I wept, and chastened my soul with fasting, that was to my reproach. :11 I made sackcloth also my garment; and I became a proverb to them. :12 They that sit in the gate speak against me; and I was the song of the drunkards. :13 But as for me, my prayer is unto thee, O LORD, in an acceptable time: O God, in the multitude of thy mercy hear me, in the truth of thy salvation.

The reproach of those who reproached YAHWEH, fell on Yahshua, His only begotten Son, who came to the earth bearing the TRUTH OF YAHWEH'S SALVATION.  Whoever therefore bears the same TRUTH, as Yahshua did, will be treated like a stranger in this world.  Was PAUL a stranger in this world?  Really?  NO.  Paul was the greatest proclaimer of twisted doctrines, in Yah's Name, of any who had come before and since.  In fact, even today, and possibly MORESO TODAY, the words of PAUL pollute the congregations of YAH, leaving little or NO room for the TRUTH OF YAHWEH'S SALVATION to be preached.  In fact, PAUL is hailed as THE greatest apostle of Yahshua, when actually, he was the THE greatest deceiver! 

Paul says:

Romans 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.

In Romans 14, we saw what Paul's idea of "pleasing your neighbor" is.  Let's look at some "OT" prophesies concerning this 'trend.'

Psalms 12:2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.

Psalms 28:3 Draw me not away with the wicked, and with the workers of iniquity, which speak peace to their neighbours, but mischief is in their hearts.

Proverbs 16:29 A violent man enticeth his neighbour, and leadeth him into the way that is not good.

Definition of Violent:

Outline of Biblical Usage
1) violence, wrong, cruelty, injustice
Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 60
AV - violence 39, violent 7, cruelty 4, wrong 3, false 2, cruel 1,
damage 1, injustice 1, oppressor + 0376 1, unrighteous 1; 60

Definition of Inticeth:

Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to be spacious, be open, be wide

a) (Qal) to be spacious or open or wide

b) (Hiphil) to make spacious, make open

2) to be simple, entice, deceive, persuade

a) (Qal)

1) to be open-minded, be simple, be naive

2) to be enticed, be deceived

b) (Niphal) to be deceived, be gullible

c) (Piel)

1) to persuade, seduce

2) to deceive

d) (Pual)

1) to be persuaded

2) to be deceived

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 28
AV - entice 10, deceive 8, persuade 4, flatter 2, allure 1, enlarge 1,
     silly one 1, silly 1; 28

Definition of Leadeth:

Outline of Biblical Usage
1) to go, walk, come

a) (Qal)

1) to go, walk, come, depart, proceed, move, go away

2) to die, live, manner of life (fig.)


b) (Hiphil) to lead, bring, lead away, carry, cause to walk

Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 1043
AV - go 628, walk 122, come 77, depart 66, ...away 20, follow 20,
     get 14, lead 17, brought 8, carry 5, bring 4, misc 62; 1043

Proverbs 18:17 He that is first in his own cause seemeth just; but his neighbour cometh and searcheth him.

Proverbs 29:5 A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet.

Jeremiah 9:4 Take ye heed every one of his neighbour, and trust ye not in any brother: for every brother will utterly supplant, and every neighbour will walk with slanders.

Jeremiah 9:5 And they will deceive every one his neighbour, and will not speak the truth: they have taught their tongue to speak lies, and weary themselves to commit iniquity.

Jeremiah 9:8 Their tongue is as an arrow shot out; it speaketh deceit: one speaketh peaceably to his neighbour with his mouth, but in heart he layeth his wait.

Jeremiah 23:27 Which think to cause my people to forget my name by their dreams which they tell every man to his neighbour, as their fathers have forgotten my name for Baal.

These are just some, of MANY, MANY prophetic warnings about those who come speaking peace and LIES to their "neighbors" to further their own, vile cause.  We cannot 'please our neighbors' in this world when we speak and LIVE the truth according to Yahweh.  In other words, we can't be politically correct and right with Yahweh at the same time.  Again, Yahshua said the following:

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

It's fence sitters who refuse to take a second to actually trust Yahweh, who end up being DEVOURED by the enemy of their souls.  It's the lukewarm believer that Yahshuah will spew from His mouth because they leave a foul taste in His mouth.  It's about being steady in heart, through thick and thin- in persecutions and in tribulations; steadfast in and for truth.  It's about not wavering in our love and devotion to Yahshua, who came to show us the way to and of our Heavenly Father.

Whoever seeks the RIGHTEOUS PATH with the whole heart, mind and soul, and in earnest love and devotion to their Creator, will find shelter from this world in Yahshua.  Simple.  The false branches get shaken off the true vine, by falsehoods introduced by false teachers and preachers and wolves in sheep's clothing like Saul/Paul of Tarsus.  Paul is there for a reason- YAH put Paul there and left him there too, all these centuries, because Paul serves YAH'S purpose: an instrument for separating the wheat from the chaff.

For More About Paul's True Purpose, Click Here   

    According to Paul, we need to be 'politically correct, people-pleasers' (who cause no one to raise an eyebrow against Paul's falsehoods.)  According to Paul, the ones who DO actually have a legitimate problem with his blabberings, are just WEAK MINDED INFIDELS doomed for destruction.  According to Paul, even Yahshua didn't "please Himself."  In Paul's mind, that is proof positive that we have to be of the same mind.  However, there's a problem, since Yahshua did the FATHER'S WILL, not His own, but Paul didn't make that distinction clear. He made the fact that Yahshua didn't please Himself, out to mean that He instead, went around "people pleasing." THAT could not be further from the truth!

Yahshua said:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Yahshua didn't "people please," nor did He ever instruct TRUE ISRAEL to be "people pleasers."  In fact, He said that whoever does the will of His Father, is His true family.  Here are more of Yahshua's sayings regarding His true attitude:

John 4:34 Yahshua saith unto them, My meat (pleasure/satisfaction) is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Let each of us not "please our neighbors" then but rather, heed the Words of the Good Shepherd, Yahshua and do the will of His Father in Heaven. Amein.  One more scripture before continuing on with chapter fifteen:

John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.   

    Romans 15:4-7 For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. :5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: :6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. :7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.

Who exactly is this "god of patience and consolation?"  According to the context of this Pauline statement, he must be the same god who expects corporate, robot worship, since Paul's instructing us all to have one, collective mind, and to worship this god with the same, collective mind.  Here is the basis for the universal church:  One, collective mind lumped together under this god of "patience and consolation," receiving one another, as this god has received us- like a mass mind gaining power by devouring all in "its way", by setting snares of falsehoods in everyone's path. 

But is it true?  No way.  Let's look closer at this "god of patience and consolation." 

First of all, there IS NO CONSOLATION for those who reject the law of Yahweh and despise the Word of the Holy One of Israel- Isaiah 5:24.  Secondly, though Yahweh is patient, longsuffering and a comforter to the saints who seek His ways to walk in them, in no way will He ever justify, nor comfort the wicked and those who rebel against Him. He gives them time to repent, yes, but essentially, He knows the hearts of every human. As we saw above, even Yahshua will ask people why they call Him "LORD, LORD" yet don't DO what HE says. He will tell them to depart from Him, since He never knew them.  Does this sound like the same "god of patience and consolation" Paul refers to?  Not to me. It sounds more like appeasing 'the gods' to gain favor of men, by following a counterfeit formula to peace with our Creator. The truth is, there IS no everlasting peace for anyone who rejects Yahweh and His Son, and follows after lies instead, in hopes of being justified another way.         
I think Job has the right idea about so called comforters- even the "god of patience and consolation" that many speak by:

Job 16:1-7 Then Job answered and said, :2 I have heard many such things: miserable comforters are ye all. :3 Shall vain words have an end? or what emboldeneth thee that thou answerest? :4 I also could speak as ye do: if your soul were in my soul's stead, I could heap up words against you, and shake mine head at you. :5 But I would strengthen you with my mouth, and the moving of my lips should asswage your grief. :6 Though I speak, my grief is not asswaged: and though I forbear, what am I eased? :7 But now he hath made me weary: thou hast made desolate all my company.

Some comforters the pals of Job were. The same is true of PAULINES.  Have you ever gone for help from a true-blue PAULINE and been entreated in the same way Job was? I have.  I tell you, it's no comfort being told you must deserve it since the 'god of patience and consolation' would have healed you and you therefore, must have done something to MAKE HIM MAD.  I was drawn into some strange, Christian movements in this manner- in seeking solace from YAHWEH, but not yet knowing HIM as I now do, and in seeking help from His so called children.  Instead, I can tell you horror stories of things I was told and have seen and of things done to me (and others) in the Name of Jesus Christ ... but I won't. The point is, they should have just told me the truth and I'd have been spared years of bondage. 

But all things happen for a reason.  Here I am, understanding WHY these people say and do the things they say and do and how they too, are as lost as I once was in the sea of religious delusion. Paul's "god of patience and consolation" is not Yahweh since Yahweh comforts His children, and gives them His peace even in the fires.  He lets them know they are only strangers passing through this world- not from here at all, but from above and He gives them true understanding so they can get safely through this cesspool and make it back to Him.  The Pauline brand of "god" simply teaches you to seek  immediate satisfaction IN VAIN WORDS OF MAN, instead of seeking Yahweh's Face.  

Yahshua said:

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

As we have seen over and over again so far in this study, Yahweh's peace, as given us through the truth of Yahweh's Words, revealed in His Son, Yahshua Ha Mashiach, is a peace that this world cannot give us.  It's an everlasting peace that this world cannot take away from us, no matter how many traps it sets for our feet.  It's the peace of knowing, within our hearts, that we are OKAY with our Father in Heaven, regardless how much the accuser of the brethren attacks us with condemnation for not bowing to his lies!  It's the knowledge that no one can take us out of our Father's Almighty hands and that we have indeed, been bought with a very high price. 

To be corporate robots serving the beast is not what Yahshua had in mind when He said that we would be one with with each other and Him, as He and His Father are one.  In fact, look at the prayer Yahshua prayed before He was crucified by the 'beast' that hated Him.  What did Yahshua say?

John 17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.

Paul's "god of consolation" justifies ANYONE who simply says they are saved.  Paul's "god of consolation" even accepts lie bags and deceivers into its fold, because according to PAUL, we have to be people pleasers and not OFFENDERS of PAUL and followers of his beast.  Please read Yahshua's prayer then return to this study.

The only consolation there is for Israel, is to REPENT and RETURN TO YAHWEH and leave PAUL in the dust where he belongs.  Amein.

How can we be received of Yahweh if we didn't belong to Him in the first place?  We can't.  We can't be likeminded toward Yahweh, the One TRUE Elohim of Israel, and be abhoring His law and the testimony of Yahshua at the same time.  Here's an interesting prophecy to contemplate, then I'll move on:

Revelation 17:11-13 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. :12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. :13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

(Please read my articles on the Beast of the Sea and the Beast of the Earth)   

    Romans 15:8-12 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: :9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. :10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. :11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. :12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Paul declares that Yahshua was a minister of the "circumcision" for the truth of Yahweh.  Who are "the circumcision" but those who believe the Word of Yahweh and follow it, including His law and including the sayings of His Son whom He sent?  Some may think that the circumcision means the Jews, but it doesn't.  The circumcision are those who are of the 12 tribes of Israel.  They are the ones whom Yahweh made His covenant with.

The word JEW is a fairly NEW word (began being used in the past couple of centuries), but it's a term used to refer to those who are of the Jewish religion.  The Jewish religion is not YAHWEH'S true way since it denies HIM, by denying HIM whom He sent. The word JEW is also used (loosely) to refer to those who are of the tribe of Judah, OR to anyone who lives in the land of Judea.  When we hear the word Jew used today, we automatically think (due to mass brainwashing and MIS-translated scripture) that it refers to Yahweh's chosen people, but really, it refers to "those who call themselves JEWS -YAHWEH'S CHOSEN ONES, but are the synagogue of Satan."  Those who belong to the tribe of Judah are Israelites.  Period. They are properly termed, "Juda(h)ites." 

Two groups today call themselves JEWS yet are not- meaning not necessarily of the tribe of Judah, nor Yah's chosen.  The obvious group who call themselves Jews, are the Jews: those who practice Judaism.  The "not so obvious group," are Christians.  Before you bite off my head, it's not me who said that "you become a Jew inwardly" when you believe Paul's 'gospel,' but rather, it was Paul who taught that whoever believes his gospel, is a Jew.  For more on this, please read Romans Two and Galatians Six.  Not only did Paul teach that whoever follows his lies is a JEW inwardly (meaning Yah's chosen with His law/covenant written on their hearts when it is NOT for the most part) but that they are also the "Israel of God."

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

*NOTE: To be circumcised in heart is to BELIEVE THE TRUTH as spoken by the mouth of Yahshua and RETURN to Yahweh.  (See: Genesis 17:10-14, Jeremiah 9:25, Ezekiel 44:7). 

Being circumcised in the flesh means nothing if the heart is not also circumcised. Yet, both, according to Yahweh, are a requirement.  Many are circumcised in the flesh but what does it mean if they don't follow the truth?  Those who practice Judaism are circumcised in their flesh, yet they have denied Yahshua.  Catholics do not circumcise the flesh, and their hearts are equally uncircumcised.  Christians proclaim "Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour," but they follow PAUL (for the most part) instead of the Word of Yahweh . . . see how complicated this is?  If we are to truly return to Yahweh, we need to believe His Word and He said the following:

Ezekiel 44:7 In that ye have brought into my sanctuary strangers, uncircumcised in heart, and uncircumcised in flesh, to be in my sanctuary, to pollute it, even my house, when ye offer my bread, the fat and the blood, and they have broken my covenant because of all your abominations.

The word "JEW" is widely accepted among all nations as meaning "Yahweh's chosen."  As we see, Paul has called his followers, "Jews inwardly" and the "Israel of God."  Yet, Paul preaches AGAINST circumcision of the flesh and he also teaches people to break Yahweh's commandments, saying the law is only a "schoolmaster" and now, "the just shall live by FAITH only." 

Galatians 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

With that in mind, we can now understand what a Gentile is.  A Gentile is a "NON-JEW" according to the Jews, and a non-Christian, according to the Christians! The Gentiles then, are those nations that are not Yahweh's covenant people.  They are the "nations," whom Yahweh told Israel not to learn the ways of.  Yahweh told Israel that since they didn't obey Him, and since they whored after other 'gods' (which are no gods) He would make Israel JEALOUS by seemingly showing favor on a foolish nation, who were not His own people.  He did what He said He would do when He raised up the Chaldeans/Babylonians- aka: ROMANS (See Habakkuk Prophecy) and used them to PUNISH Israel for constantly going astray from Him. 

The twelve tribes of Israel were scattered abroad, into ALL nations, (GENTILES) and even today, most do not have a clue who they even are.  Who are they then?  It's simple!!  They are those who do the following:

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of Yahweh, and the faith of Yahshua.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

I think it's important that we know exactly WHAT a Gentile really is!  I found this article to be fantastic and think you will too, but bear in mind that the author of the site seems unaware of the fallacies of Paul.

http://www.israelect.com/reference/Willie-Martin/Gentile.html

Here are some of the definitions mentioned on the above site:

Thayers Definition: #1484  ethnos:

1) a multitude (whether of men or of beasts) associated or living together; a company, a troop, a swarm (a swarm of LOCUSTS)

2) a multitude of individuals of the same nature or genus, the human race

3) a race, a nation, a people, a group

4) in the Old Testament, foreign nations not worshiping the true God, pagans, Gentiles

5) Paul uses the term for Gentile (non Jewish) Christians


   

    According to common belief, there are JEWS (those who practice Judaism) and then there are GENTILES but I believe that both terms are actually synonymous with "heathen."  There is one nation chosen by Yahweh to be His very own people and from the time Israel was chosen, nations have tried to steal the title for themselves. Christianity, Judaism, Islam and every other religious system under "the sun" share one thing in common and that is, they all believe that they are the only ones going to Heaven.  Let me tell you the truth.  Nobody is going to Heaven (Yahweh's Everlasting Kingdom) who wasn't born from above in the first place. 

Yahshua came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel, which is currently still scattered throughout every nation on the earth.  All nations (including pagan Jewish nations, like current, "Political Zionist Israel") have within their borders, true Israelites and it's these true Israelites who hear the voice of the Good Shepherd.  That's how they know who they are.  They wouldn't hear the voice of Yahshua telling them to return to Yahweh, if they didn't belong to Him in the first place. 

The truth of Yahweh's salvation does indeed go forth as a bright Light to the Gentiles (ethnos/nations,) and by it, Israel- true Israel, is awakened to her identity. Yahweh said that though Abraham's seed would be multiplied as the sand of the sea, a REMNANT would return to Himself.  So it is.  The remnant of the seed of Israel is small but by their testimony, they witness against the world and all its wicked ways.

In Yahshua's prayer, it is clear He didn't pray for the world!  Why would He not pray for the whole world if the whole world was really the seed of Yahweh?  See?  Instead, He prayed that Yahweh would keep the true children of Israel FROM THE EVIL ONE.

The term "Gentile," has different meanings, depending on who you ask.  To Christians, Gentiles are the non-JEWISH nations.  To Jews, Gentiles are also non-Jews and as the author of the above article said, to Mormons, any non-Mormon group/nation, is a Gentile nation.  So we see the term Gentile, like the term Jew, is misunderstood thoroughly.  Whenever you see the term "Gentile" then, inside the Christian bible, you can be sure it means "the non-Christian nations."  And whenever you see the term Jew, it refers (almost always) to the Jewish religion or (wrongly) "Yah's chosen", except when referring to the Hebrew exiles, like Daniel, Shadrack, Meshach and Abednigo. 

With the above in mind, let's take another look at the passage in question:

Romans 15:8-12 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: :9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. :10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. :11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles; and laud him, all ye people. :12 And again, Esaias saith, There shall be a root of Jesse, and he that shall rise to reign over the Gentiles; in him shall the Gentiles trust.

Let's put this simply then.  If "Jesus Christ was the minister of the circumcision for the truth of God" to confirm the promises made to the fathers (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), then what is PAUL really saying in his next breath?  Let's take a look at some verses and see if Paul is quoting them properly or not:

Paul quoted Isaiah, but guess what?  He left some important things OUT!  Take a look:

Isaiah 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.

Bear in mind that the word "Gentiles" simply means NATIONS (ethnos).  Paul took this verse right out of context, as you will see:

Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. (*the nations/GENTILES/ethnos... )

To recover WHOM?  His PEOPLE Israel.

Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

(Israel and Judah are the two OLIVE TREES- or TWO WITNESSES OF YAHWEH in the earth!  Please read my study of Romans 11 for more about this!!)

   

    We need to look to more scriptures to confirm the above: that it's SCATTERED ISRAEL YAH IS REFERRING TO:

Isaiah 61:9 And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.

How will the seed of Israel whom Yahweh has blessed, be known among the Gentiles/Nations?  Yahshua tells us how:  "BY THEIR FRUIT YOU SHALL KNOW THEM."

Isaiah 66:19 And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.

WHO shall declare the glory of Yahweh among the Gentiles (nations)? ISRAEL. 

Lamentations 2:9 Her gates (Israel's gates) are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes are among the Gentiles: the law is no more; her prophets also find no vision from the LORD.

Does this sound like the state of the nations today or not?  Dispersed Israel has forgotten the LAW OF YAHWEH BUT THEY ARE BEING AWAKENED BY THE TRUTH AS I WRITE THIS!!  The Word of Yahweh is penetrating the thick veil of apostacy that the "fathers" of ChristenDUMB and Judaism and every other 'reLEGION' have woven and Israel is waking up to her true identity by the WORD OF YAHSHUA. His witnesses are declaring HIM and HIS WORDS in all the nations into which Israel was scattered.  In other words, THE TRUE WORD OF YAHWEH AS SPOKEN BY THE MOUTH OF THE TRUE AND FAITHFUL WITNESS- Yahshua Ha Mashiyach, IS CLEANSING ISRAEL OF THE LIES AND SIN OF THE NATIONS AND FREEING HER!  Hallelu'Yah!! 

Ezekiel 4:13 And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

See???  What "defiled bread?"  THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES, SADDUCEES AND HEROD!  In other words, the false doctrines that the nations cleave to and believe, since they don't keep the commandments of Yahweh and they despise the WORD of the Holy ONE of Israel- Yahshua!  See!

So now, Israel is tucked deeply within the folds of all manner of men, but Yahshua is declaring the everlasting GOSPEL in all nations, to SAVE ISRAEL from her sins and bring her back to her true Father, Yahweh. 

Hosea 8:8 Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure.

There is no pleasure coming from Israel, because Israel has forgotten her FATHER!  How can she then declare His glory among the nations?  She can't!  Not until she REMEMBERS and NOW SHE IS BEING AWAKENED to do just that, by the WORD OF TRUTH.  The lies are being dispelled, literally and the remnant of "her seed" are the ones testifying of the truths Yahweh is showing them.  That's why they're called witnesses.  A witness testifies of the truth and the truth is what exposes the works of Satan.  This is why the DRAGON is WROTH with the remnant of Israel.  The truth is like a candle.  Put a candle in any dark room, and suddenly, the darkness FLEES and you can see!  The dragon doesn't want us to see!  If we see then we ESCAPE!  SEE???

Micah 5:8 And the remnant of Jacob shall be among the Gentiles in the midst of many people as a lion among the beasts of the forest, as a young lion among the flocks of sheep: who, if he go through, both treadeth down, and teareth in pieces, and none can deliver. 

The TRUTH TEARS THE BEAST ASUNDER and Jacob, among the "Gentiles/Nations" will declare the WORD OF HIS FATHER and the Dragon will try to retaliate, but YAHWEH WILL DEFEND JACOB and He will defend the WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL- His REMNANT. 

Malachi 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

This is yet to come!  But I tell you- It is SOON because the witnesses of Yahweh are beginning to testify, Israel is waking up and when the END COMES, Yahweh will destroy the kingdoms of VAIN MAN and hand over HIS GLORIOUS KINGDOM to His PEOPLE, Israel, who are rescued by the TRUTH from the lies of the WORLD.  Amein.

Now, let's take yet another look at Paul's words:

Romans 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. :11 And again, Praise the Lord, all ye Gentiles;

This should have read,"REJOICE ISRAEL, His people, AMONG the nations!" 

SEE.   

    Romans 15:13-17 Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. :14 And I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another. :15 Nevertheless, brethren, I have written the more boldly unto you in some sort, as putting you in mind, because of the grace that is given to me of God, :16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost. :17 I have therefore whereof I may glory through Jesus Christ in those things which pertain to God.

Let's cut right to the chase.  Even Yahshua said the following to those who called Him "good:"

Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

So, can you see through Paul's tactic then?  He's using 'flattery' to bring his readers to himself as the 'saviour' of the GENTILES- aka- NON ISRAELITES!!  He even goes as far as saying that he's offering up the GENTILES to 'god' through his own gospel.  Woe!  Israel, can you see?

Look at Paul's next vain statements:

Romans 15:18-20 For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed, :19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. :20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:   

    Here's what PAUL is REALLY saying in that above passage:

"I will not DARE say anything that 'my god' hasn't instructed me to say, since my whole mission is to make all the nations bow to Satan, in both word (my lies) and deed- (my commandments that are better than YAHWEH'S)!  It's MY JOB to make all the nations obedient to the DRAGON, you see.  And LOOK! I have proved the DRAGON'S power haven't I? Look at all the mighty signs and wonders I have done in the spirit of my god- from Jerusalem to Illyricum I have fully made my god known!

And guess what else?  I have made sure I haven't preached my "christ" where the REAL MESSIAH was ever named, because I will NOT build the kingdom of my daddy, Satan, on that man's foundation!  NO SIR!  So I have freedom to lie all I want, to whoever I want because I'm the COUNTERFEIT!  Hee Hee Hee!  True ISRAEL would know I'm a liar so that's why I don't preach my daddy where people know the REAL MESSIAH."

Saith PAUL, the snake of Tarsus.

Romans 15:21-25 But as it is written, To whom he was not spoken of, they shall see: and they that have not heard shall understand. :22 For which cause also I have been much hindered from coming to you. :23 But now having no more place in these parts, and having a great desire these many years to come unto you; :24 Whensoever I take my journey into Spain, I will come to you: for I trust to see you in my journey, and to be brought on my way thitherward by you, if first I be somewhat filled with your company. :25 But now I go unto Jerusalem to minister unto the saints.

Sigh.

Let's look at what was really written!

Isaiah 52:11-15 Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean thing; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD. :12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel will be your rereward. :13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. :14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: :15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.

Paul has placed himself in this passage, as the Servant whom Isaiah prophesied of.  I pray that you see this!  The serpent twist here is so sublte and so amazing, that I'm blown away.  Who are they who will see, but ISRAELITES, who are dispersed in all the nations??  Will they see Yahweh's salvation through Yahshua, or will they see Satan's LIES through Paul of Tarsus???  True Israel will see Yaweh's salvation and they will GET OUT OF THE MIDST OF HER and BE CLEAN!!  The Father Himself will lead them OUT by the WORDS OF THE TRUE AND FAITHFUL WITNESS- Yahshua, His Son.  Amein.

Paul is making arrangements to travel to Rome, enroute to Spain, and saying he will stop in Jerusalem to minister to the "saints" there.  We know, however, that the Jerusalem church, consisting of James and Peter DID NOT EVEN ACCEPT PAUL.  So what saints then, was Paul talking about?  Simple:  those who had never heard the TRUE MESSIAH'S message, and whom PAUL had brainwashed. 

Romans 15:26-33 For it hath pleased them of Macedonia and Achaia to make a certain contribution for the poor saints which are at Jerusalem. :27 It hath pleased them verily; and their debtors they are. For if the Gentiles have been made partakers of their spiritual things, their duty is also to minister unto them in carnal things. :28 When therefore I have performed this, and have sealed to them this fruit, I will come by you into Spain. :29 And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ. :30 Now I beseech you, brethren, for the Lord Jesus Christ's sake, and for the love of the Spirit, that ye strive together with me in your prayers to God for me; :31 That I may be delivered from them that do not believe in Judaea; and that my service which I have for Jerusalem may be accepted of the saints; :32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed. :33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Paul has made arrangements to bring the offering from the Macedonian and Achaia churches to the "poor saints of Jerusalem."  That only reminds me of these following verses:

Job 15:34 For the congregation of hypocrites shall be desolate, and fire shall consume the tabernacles of bribery.

Psalms 26:10 In whose hands is mischief, and their right hand is full of bribes.

Paul wanted to BRIBE the Jerusalem church, led by JAMES and thus, infiltrate the assembly of believers there.  Paul reasons that since the Macedonian and Acaian churches OWED the "Jerusalem" church for allowing them to partake of their "spiritual things," then they could PAY them off with carnal things.  Maybe this is how Paul did the following with the Corinthians?

II Corinthians 11:8 I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

The Kingdom of Heaven is NOT FOR SALE.

The Jerusalem assembly of YAHSHUA, not of PAUL, did NOT accept Paul's offering/BRIBE.  Please read this article:

Paul's Final Trip to Jerusalem:
The Rejection of the Collection

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/pauljerufinal.html

EXCERPT:

Despite opposition from the Jerusalem church Paul could not afford to alienate them. In what turned out to be his last trip to Jerusalem, Paul decided to make a final attempt at some reconciliation. We will analyze the primary documents to see if we can find out what exactly happened. This relates to the Paul's last visit to Jerusalem.

We start with a preliminary analysis of the sources.

Paul last trip is narrated only in Acts 21 and nowhere else. Here we give the summary of Paul's arrival until his arrest here.

A close analysis of the account in Acts 21 betrays the fact that here Luke was relying on a reliable continuous source.

The collection for the Jerusalem Church was a very important part of Paul's attempt to reconcile himself to the church and indeed was given in his epistles as the reason why Paul made that final, fateful, trip to Jerusalem..

An analysis of these facts show that:

The collection was rejected by James and the Jerusalem Church
The Jerusalem Church was very probably somehow responsible for Paul's arrest and certainly did nothing to help him.

In conclusion, the evidence shows us that, consistent with their opposition to his mission, the Jerusalem Church rejected Paul's collection and very probably had a hand in Paul's arrest!

Interesting huh?


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