Thus Saith Paul - Romans 8

Thus Saith Paul
Romans Chapter Eight

"Paul's New Law"
Of the Spirit of Life In Christ

by Nikki

    Had I not already done a thorough study of the seven chapters preceding this eighth chapter of Romans, I would think there is nothing amiss with Paul whatsoever, according to this chapter. In fact, if this were the only portion of Paul's writings, I'd ever read, and somebody told me Paul was the enemy of Truth, I'd laugh in their faces and think they were the enemy of truth, not Paul.  On that note, let's walk through this chapter and see if it's really as beautiful and truthful as it seems.

Romans 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Apostle John Said:

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

According to John, whoever believes In The Name of the only Begotten Son of Yahweh, is not condemned.  What does John mean, by saying, "Because he hath not believed in the Name of the only Begotten Son of Yahweh?"  Yahshua said:

John 5:43 I Am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I Am he, ye shall die in your sins.

What does it mean to believe He "Is He?" It means the following:

Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Isaiah 41:4 Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I Am he.

Yahshua was Yahweh in the flesh. He was His WORD (Life) made flesh. He IS the first and He IS the last AND He is the Creator of All things. By the Word of Yahweh, were all things called into being.  Nothing came to be except by the Word of Yahweh. (John 1:1-14)

Isaiah 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I Am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

If we believe in the Name of the Only Begotten Son of Yahweh, we believe that Yahshua IS the Creator who came in the flesh and dwelt among us.  We therefore, believe that He is our Redeemer and thus, we cleave to His Word, and His Word alone. He is Sovereign, Holy, Just and Righteous and by Him and only by Him, is anyone saved.

Isaiah 43:13 Yea, before the day was I Am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?

Yahshua, is the Word of Yahweh made flesh.  He is the Creator of Heaven and of earth and of the seas and of all that is in them. He is the first and He is the last; the Alpha and the Omega; the beginning and the ending; The Holy One and Redeemer of Israel- The Righteous Branch. Yahshua said:

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I Am.

In chapter seven (and all chapters of Romans so far) we were treated with Paul's replacement of Yahweh and of His Word theology.  We were told that since we are dead with Christ, and since Christ is dead, we are now free from the bondage of Yahweh's law, and thus free to divorce Him and marry another.  Please read chapter seven if you haven't already.

That is utter blasphemy and not to be believed, if we truly do believe that Yahshua IS HE.  Since He Is HE, His Word is Alive, not dead and furthermore, He changes NOT.

Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

According to Paul's theology, we ARE consumed because we are dead with Christ and thus, freed from the bondage of His Law (Word).  Yahweh said the opposite.  He IS and does not change, therefore, oh Paul, the sons of Jacob (Israel) are NOT consumed, like you would have us all believe.

Yahweh's Word is our seal:

Deuteronomy 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

Yahweh's Word is Eternal:

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

He is He- The I AM; the Almighty One; The Eternal Word who IS.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I Am the way, the truth, and THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I Am the resurrection, and THE LIFE: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

John 6:51 I Am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for THE LIFE of the world.

Now let's examine Paul's word (that is not Yahweh's Word) and see if it is or isn't lining up with the only truth there is:

Psalms 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

If Yahweh is TRUE, which is what we set to our seal if we truly believe that Yahshua IS HE, then it's Yahweh's law we need to cleave to, and bind up within ourselves, because He has said, the law and the testimony are His seal.  He has said that His law is the truth.  He has said that when we bind up the law and the testimony within our hearts and souls, they are a sign on our hands and as frontlets (mark/seal) between our eyes.  If this is the truth, we had better take care not to bind any other law or testimony upon our hands or between our eyes (in our minds.)

Saith Paul: "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."

Indeed whoever is IN Yahshua, is IN HIS LIFE, thus is spiritually alive; no longer condemned, and will have eternal life.  Yahshua has shown us what it means to be IN HIS LIFE:  It means we are In His Word; that we have bound HIM upon our hands and in our foreheads (minds) and therefore, HE is MASTER and Redeemer of our souls; who brings us to obedience to Himself, who IS, and to no other, who is not. 

Paul says there is no condemnation to anyone who walks after the Spirit, not the flesh.  Half true.  The half that is true, is the half that says we walk after the Spirit.  What does that mean?  What IS Yahweh? 

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

To worship Him in Spirit and in Truth means to believe His Word (laws/commandments), love that Word with all our hearts, might, minds and strength and DO THAT WORD.  Why do we love the Word of Yahweh?  We love the Word of Yahweh because it is HIS LIFE.  It is His Spirit.  The Word of Yahweh IS the resurrection of our souls from spiritual death, to spiritual LIFE. The Word of Yahweh IS HE. The Word of Yahweh came to us in the flesh of His only Begotten Son, Yahshua, as the testimony TO THE LIFE.  By Yahshua's Words and by His example, we have the testimony of WHO Yahweh IS and what HE expects of us who want to live eternally with Him. 

Since this is the truth, the half of Paul's statement that is untrue, is the half that says: "who walk not after the flesh." Yahshua was the Word of Yahweh made flesh.  That means, He came here not only to testify (speak) the Word that is eternal, but also, to teach us how to walk in it, by setting the faithful and true example of what it means to walk IN THE LIFE/Spirit of Yahweh.  

Therefore, unless we walk after the flesh of Yahshua, meaning walk by His example, we have not received His Testimony nor set to our seal, that Yahweh IS TRUE, thus we are walking after a different spirit. His Word is HIS way. As we have seen, His law is the truth.  How can we say we love Him and know Him yet not DO His Word?  If we do His Word, it means we have received His testimony and that we are IN HIM.  If we do not do His Word, (walk in His Ways) we are not IN HIM.  If we are not IN HIM, yet we walk after "the Spirit", what "Spirit" are we really walking after?  Yahshua said:

John 14:15-21 If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.  I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.  At that day ye shall know that I am in my father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Since we know that He IS; that HE is the TRUTH; that He IS the LIFE and thus the WAY, can Paul be speaking truth by saying we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit? YES.  He can be and is speaking the truth: the truth according to the spirit Paul walks by. But, The Spirit of Truth testifies that, we are spiritual whores if we do not walk in the way of Yahweh, but yet walk after "the spirit." We do walk after "the spirit" when we walk after Paul, but we walk in the spirit of Paul instead of the Spirit of Truth, which IS THE WORD of YAHWEH.

Paul ended his introductory statement to Roman's chapter eight, by introducing yet another "new law" (one of many new laws of Paul) which states: 

"For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."   

    What IS this new law Paul speaks of?  Did Yahshua or Yahweh ever mention "The law of the Spirit of Life in Christ?"  If there is any law even remotely similar to what Paul is trying to pervert, it would be the Law of Yahweh which states:

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Deuteronomy 30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Deuteronomy 30:19-20 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

The law of the "Spirit of Life In Christ", is to obey Yahweh, who IS THE WORD OF LIFE; to walk in His ways, to keep His commandments and statues and judgements, to obey HIS voice, to love HIM and cleave to HIM because HE is our life, and only by doing as He commands, will we ever enter the Kingdom of Heaven, that IS HIS LAND, and thus RULED by HIM and no other.  Yahweh asks, of all who throw His Word (Thus HIM) aside so they may be freed from His law, (which Paul vainly calls the law of sin and death) and try to get into HIS KINGDOM some other way, except by HIM:

Jeremiah 5:7 How shall I pardon thee for this? thy children have forsaken me, and sworn by them that are no gods: when I had fed them to the full, they then committed adultery, and assembled themselves by troops in the harlots' houses.

Paul's law of "the spirit of life in Christ" will never set anyone free from the law of sin and death. Following Paul's godless and evil spirit, will instead, set us free FROM LIFE.  In other words, Paul is lying again and doing a fine job of deceiving the earth into thinking Yahweh has freed us from His law, through the death of His body; His Body which He willingly laid down for our sakes, through His Son, Yahshua.  Those who cleave only to HIM and obey only HIS VOICE and those who walk only in HIS ways, as exemplified for all through Yahshua, will be redeemed and granted access to the Kingdom of Heaven; over which HE ALONE is KING. 

What does Paul mean by saying if we walk after the 'spirit' we are freed from the law of sin and death?  As we have seen already, Paul's idea of walking after the Spirit, is walking after himself, and the evil spirit that he, himself, walks after; eg. Satan.  We have also seen that there is only One True Spirit and that is the Spirit of Truth, which is the Word of Yahweh; eg., Yahshua.  We have also seen that if we truly have received Yahshua, we have truly believed His testimony, which is Yahweh IS True.  Obey HIM and LIVE.

In case anyone has not yet read the previous chapters of Romans, here are some of Paul's ideas regarding the law we are supposedly freed of when we accept Christ:

1. The law was only given to those who are under it: to amplify the guilt of all- Romans 3:19
2. You are not under the law but under grace, so sin no longer dominates you (sin=the law according to Paul- Romans 6:14
3. We are delivered from the law- because it caused our death- Romans 7:6
4. Since your husband (God/His Law) is dead, you are no longer bound to him and now you can marry another- Romans 7:2-3.

As we have clearly seen, the law IS OUR LIFE because it is the Word of Yahweh, which is Yahshua, which is the Way, the Truth and the Life. 

Paul is lying.  If we believe Paul instead of the Word of Yahweh, then we agree with Paul, that Yahweh is dead.

Romans 8:3-4 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.   

    Look at this rotten statement of Paul's.  The law is inadequate, and weak, according to Paul. He blames it on the fact that our flesh is weak.  Our weak flesh has nothing to do with Yahweh's law being weak or inadequate.  The law of Yahweh is perfect and given for life, not death, for all who cleave to it and walk in it.  Why does Paul continue to cast the truth to the ground?

Our Heavenly Father gave us all a choice: choose life (obedience to Him) or choose death (disobedience to Him).  Each one of us have the choice to either seek Him and His Ways to walk in them and live, or seek another way, that gives us false peace and false security with Him.  Without love for Him, which means making the choice to listen to Him and do what He says, because we believe HE IS, then we are only deceived if we think we will stand before Him.  He is merciful and He is just, and that's why He gave us the law (commandments), so we can LIVE. 

Indeed Yahweh sent His Word to us all, in the flesh of Yahshua, His only Begotten Son.  His Word was given for our very lives: that whoever hears the sayings of Yahshua, and whoever cleaves to them; not only as hearers but doers of His Word, will live.  How can we be doers of His Word if we are doers of somebody else's word? Can anyone serve two masters? No.  As Yahshua said, we will love one and hate the other.  Yahshua is the Living Bread that came down from Heaven to feed all who hunger and thirst after righteousness.  Whoever eats of His flesh (walks by His example and keeps His Words) will live!!  We can't walk by Yahshua (the WORD which is Spirit and Life) and not DO what that Spirit of Life does.  If we say we know Him but do not keep His commandments, we are liars and hypocrites and the TRUTH (The Word) is not in us.  We are only deceived.

Now Paul has said something that I, and I'm sure millions before me, have never thought much of and have even overlooked.  He has not only clearly stated that the law of Yahweh is inadequate and weak, because we are not able to keep it, but then he outright said that Yahshua was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh.  If Yahshua came in the likeness of sinful flesh, as Paul proclaims, then Paul has just condemned the Holy One of Israel because Yahshua was PERFECT. He was not made in the likeness of sinful flesh at all but rather, in the Express IMAGE of His Heavenly Father.  WE TOO WERE CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF YAHWEH.  How dare Paul condemn us all by saying that mankind is made corrupt!  To say such a thing, is blasphemy against The Creator.  To say Yahshua was made after the likeness of sinful flesh, is double blasphemy since Yahshua was conceived by the very SEED of Yahweh- by the Holy Ghost, and was born of Mary, whose blood-line was pure and undefiled by the seed of Satan.  Yahshua is the root and the offspring of Jesse- the Righteous Branch.

Paul says:

Romans 8:3-6 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

Was Yahshua sent in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin and did He condemn sin in the flesh?   First of all, sin was always condemned- always wrought the curse of Yahweh- the consequences for breaking His law and thus whoring after other gods (that are no gods at all).  Sin was never permissable by Yahweh.  How can it be?  He is a Just and Holy, and Righteous Elohim, who cannot bear to even look upon evil. 

Yahshua came that we might have LIFE and LIFE more abundantly, by walking after His example and adhering to His Words- which are the Father's Words because Yahshua was the Father Himself, made flesh.  Therefore, if we walk after TRUTH, we will be saved.  If Yahweh came here in the flesh of His Son, Yahshua, then Paul is more corrupt than I can even fathom, since he said, He came in the likeness of sinful flesh.  He came in the likeness of PERFECT FLESH, not sinful flesh, oh Paul.

The Good Shepherd laid down His own Life for the sheep- His friends who love Him and keep His commandments, so that by His Blood, He could redeem His friends from spiritual death.  When we believe His testimony and keep the commandments of Yahweh, as He taught us to (with love, mercy, compassion, justice and in truth), He, who LIVES, comes and makes His abode IN US.  That was the reason HE CAME.  He came to atone for His friends who want to walk the Path called LIFE.  He came to offer His own LIFE to us.  His body is the sacrifice- the Holy Sacrificial Lamb for our sins, that by accepting His LIFE, we will be cleansed of all unrighteousness when we repent and believe the TRUTH. By Yahshua's Spirit (WORD) we are born from above.  We are not only born from above, but HE HIMSELF comes and indwells us so that HE, being in us (HIS WORDS/SPIRIT/WAYS/LIFE) leads us to the Promised Land.

Paul mixes half-truths with TRUTH, with his own ideas and makes the whole matter complicated.  If we are walking after the Spirit, we are walking in the footpath of Yahshua, not Paul.  It's Yahshua who is leading us, not Paul.  It is Yahshua who is the faithful and true witness, thus Yahshua we need to cleave to, not Paul, who said that the law is dead to us.  If the law is dead to us, then we can't be walking in the Spirit of Truth, now can we, since Yahshua IS THE WORD/LAW of Yahweh and He is ALIVE. 

Paul claims that anyone who walks after the flesh is carnally minded, thus dead. As we have seen, Paul should have made a clear distinction about what flesh is carnal and what flesh is not.  The flesh of Yahshua is PERFECT.  To walk after HIS flesh is to walk in His WAYS, which means DOING what He commanded by obediently walking in His example. 

Paul says, to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Indeed it is, yet Paul continually omits the fact that to be spiritually minded is to be IN THE WORD OF YAHWEH.  As we have seen, to be in His Word is to do it, and we do His Word in our flesh don't we?  We keep His commandments as flesh beings, who have HIM within us, continually helping us make that choice, between life and death: obedience to Yahweh, which brings us blessings and rewards, or obedience to Paul (and others like Paul) which subtly guide us away from doing the will of Yahweh, yet who promise spiritual life. 

    Romans 8:5-7 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

This sounds true doesn't it?  It sounds like Paul is finally seeing the LIGHT!  But is he?  He has already said that Yahshua came in the likeness of sinful flesh, thus was sinful, (in a sneaky, roundabout way).  We have also seen, that we do have to walk after the flesh if we are going to be doers of the Word of Yahshua, since we are still here: still flesh beings. We still eat, breathe and sleep in fleshly bodies, don't we?  To be carnally minded, in Paul's point of view, is to keep the law of Yahweh.  Over and over again, we have found this to be true, so far in this study, so we need to be careful about what Paul really means here.  He means, that whoever does the WORKS of the LAW is carnally minded, thus an enemy of Yahweh! He has said as much:

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

It's important that we understand exactly what Paul means by being "carnally minded," and the above scriptures say it all.  Who is speaking the TRUTH?  Yahshua or Paul?  Who is LIFE?  Paul, or Yahweh?  We have already seen that Yahweh set before us LIFE and DEATH according to the commandments He set before us all.  If we choose life, we choose to be obedient to the law of Yahweh, thus DO HIS WILL.  If we have received the testimony of Yahshua, we have set to our seal that Yahweh is TRUE, thus the law and the testimony are bound on our hands and between our eyes: in other words, we are SEALED BY HIM.

So are we justified by the works of the law? YES!  Did we receive the Spirit by being obedient to (doing) the works of the law? YES! 

John 14:15-18 If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;  Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

James 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my father which is in heaven.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Are all who do Yahweh's will, according to the His Law, under a curse? NO.  They who don't do His will by keeping His law and commandments, ARE CURSED, since the Father said as much.  So who is lying? Paul or Yahweh?  PAUL IS. 

Deuteronomy 28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:

Paul says the carnal mind is enmity toward Yahweh and is not subject to the law of Yahweh, nor can be.  True.  The carnal mind is earthly: thinking of the world and things of the world, rather than thinking of Yahweh and His Kingdom.  BUT, Paul has said the carnal mind, is the mind that does the works of the law, thus what Paul is really saying, is that if we think we'll be justified by obeying Yahweh's commandments, we are actually enemies of Yahweh. Unless we know exactly where Paul is coming from (The PIT OF HELL) this eighth chapter of Romans is possibly THE most deceiving chapter he ever wrote. Yahshua said:

Mark 7:7-9 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

Romans 8:8-10 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Once again, we need to be careful about accepting Paul's words at face value.  True, we can't please Yahweh, if we break His commandments (do the works of iniquity that He hates), but it's in our flesh that we do please Him, when we do His Word and will. Again, Paul tells us, we are not in the flesh.  Again, I say, YES WE ARE.  Again, Paul says we are in the Spirit, and again I ask, "What SPIRIT can we be in, if not in the Spirit of Truth, which comes by our obedience to the Word of Yahweh: eg., by keeping His commandments?"  As Yahshua said, "If you love me, keep my commandments, and I will give you the Spirit of Truth, which is ME!!" 

Paul says that anyone who doesn't have the Spirit of Christ, is not His.  Again, true.  But then Paul says our bodies are dead because of sin.  I don't know about you, but my body is alive.  My body is very much the thing I'm using to write this in the first place.  What Paul really means by the body being dead because of sin, is what he's been saying all along: we are dead with Christ.  If Christ be dead, then we are freed from the bondage of His law, which IS HIM.  Paul is once again, perverting the Word of Truth, and again I say, if I had not done the indepth studies I've already done on Paul, I would have still been buying his lies, like the ones he just spoke in verses eight to ten. 

Paul says the Spirit is LIFE because of righteousness.  I am baffled by that one.  The Spirit is LIFE because Yahweh is ALIVE and because He is Holy and Righteous.  That Holy Spirit of His is what comes and indwells us when we repent of believing anyone but HIM and stop sinning against Him.  The Spirit IS His Word.  If we say we are dead with Christ, because He died, then we are full of deceit.  We are not dead because He died.  We are alive, because He gave us His LIFE when we believed HIM and decided to be faithful to the the TRUTH that IS OUR LIFE. 

Romans 8:11-13 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.  For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

First of all, we need to see something:

John 10:17-18 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

Who raised up Yahshua's body from death?  HE DID.  Who laid down His own body in the first place?  HE DID.  Who has power to lay it down and take it again?  HE DOES.  Why?  Because He was Yahweh in the flesh. He therefore was LIFE and never died.  Only the body He indwelt died.  His Spirit remained alive and thus reentered the body of flesh that sinful, unbelieving man murdered.  Therefore, what "Spirit" is Paul talking about, when he said, "the spirit that raised up Christ from the dead?"  Paul has separated Yahweh from Yahshua and done so, so subtly, that it's almost too impossible to see it. 

Then Paul says we are debtors to live after that same spirit that raised up Christ from the dead, not debtors to be obedient to Yahweh, by keeping His commandments.  I know he didn't outright say that, but that's exactly what Paul means.  Paul says, "For if you live after the flesh, you shall die." Again, we know what he really means by living after the flesh, is keeping the law of Yahweh.  Then Paul says, "If you (through the Spirit) mortify (put to death) the deeds of the body, you will live."  Unfortunately, he is lying, yet again. If we mortify the deeds of the body- the works we do when we keep the law of Yahweh, we will NOT live at all because it's the Spirit of Yahweh that makes us obedient to the law, becaue He INDWELLS OUR HEARTS.  If we are living after the "Spirit" then we are doing His WORD and we are doing His Word, while IN these fleshly bodies.  But if we are following a spirit that tells us the law is no longer necessary to keep, we are not following that SPIRIT that raised up Christ from the dead at all, but the spirit of antichrist instead of Yahshua- the Spirit of TRUTH. 

Romans 8:14-17 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.  The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.   

    Paul is so crafty it is nauseating.  Who are the sons of Yahweh?  The sons of Yahweh are they who love Yahweh and who do what Yahweh commands them.  The sons of Yahweh are they who have the seal of Yahweh upon their hands and foreheads: His Law and His Testimony. These are the sons of Yahweh.  So Paul speaks truth but does so within a lie. Paul says we have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but that spirit that cries "Abba Father."  IF we have received the Spirit of Truth, because we are born from above, by the Spirit of Truth that Yahshua sends when we believe the Truth and WALK in it, then YES.  We have the Spirit that calls Yahweh, FATHER, because He IS our Father. If Yahweh is our Father, we FEAR HIM with great love and reverence, knowing that if we are disobedient to Him and walk after a lying spirit, we forfeit our right to be His sons.   Therefore,we do live in fear of Him and anyone who doesn't, cannot possibly know Him!!  He is to be feared.

Paul says, "The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of Yahweh, and if children, then heirs of Yahweh, and joint-heirs with Christ- if we happen to suffer with Him so we can be glorified together."

Let's clarify something right off the hop.  ALL THINGS ARE YAHSHUA'S.  They always were and always will be.  If we are to be "heirs" of Yahweh, we inherit the kingdom of Heaven that IS HIM.  He IS the Kingdom of Heaven.  If we are IN HIM, meaning walking in His ways and alive by Him, then we are already heirs of Him.  But what does Paul mean by suffering with Christ, so we can be glorified together? First of all, Messiah, is already glorified.  He never gave His glory away, and will never share it with anyone or give His praise (the praise that belongs to Him) to graven images.  Therefore, how can we be glorified with HIM? WRONG PAUL.  We are glorified by being IN HIM.  He is our glory.  HIS glory is what makes us alive isn't it?  What Paul really means by suffering with Him (and I must say, Paul means suffering with himself), is the following:

I Peter 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

(*NOTE:  Do not be persuaded to believe this was the PETER that Yahshua called to be HIS APOSTLE.  The Peter who wrote the two epistles of Peter, is PAUL.  Many scholars will confirm this.)

So- we see what Paul means by suffering.  He means if anyone suffers as a Christian- they are suffering for believing PAUL'S GOSPEL. AND if you don't believe Paul forged the epistles of Peter, ask yourself why the Apostle of the Lamb- Simon Peter, would teach something CONTRARY to what Yahshua taught?

Here is what Yahshua taught:

Matthew 5:10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 

John 15:20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.

So, Peter/Paul's idea of suffering is different from the TRUTH about suffering.  If we suffer for being a Christian, because we believe PAUL instead of Yahweh, then the suffering we are experiencing is due to the curse that comes from being outside of His Will.  We are suffering His wrath!  Our suffering is VAIN and so is our labour.  If we labour for lies, we are actually reaping our just reward if we are persecuted for it.

John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

Profound statement isn't it?  The fact is, if HE is IN US, the world will definitely never accept nor love us, because the world HATES HIM. If the world hates Him, then it will hate whoever is IN HIM, too.  If we suffer because of RIGHTEOUSNESS: meaning for the Word of Yahweh (His Law/Commandments), and for the testimony that we have to KEEP HIS WORD, and if we suffer because we DO keep His Word, then Hallelu'Yah to the Lamb! 

BUT, if we suffer for PAUL'S word, which is not YAHWEH'S Word, and if we suffer for being members of the religion Paul founded, that's very sad.  People suffer persecution all the time for their beliefs, but the fact that they are persecuted for their beliefs, doesn't mean their beliefs are true at all.  All it means, is they are labouring and suffering in vain. 

If the world hates us for righteousness' sake, it will be because we live the way Yahweh said to: in obedience to HIM alone.  If we suffer for that reason: for the Word of Yahweh, then we will not be ashamed.  We will instead, have right to the kingdom of Heaven.  But if we suffer for Paul's sake, we are suffering for Paul's sake.  Period.

Psalms 78:33 Therefore their days did he consume in vanity, and their years in trouble.   

    Romans 8:18-22 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.  For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,  Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

The glory that will be revealed in us, is that reward Yahshua brings when He comes in all His Kingdom.  It's the crown of life He promises to all who overcome and the crown of Life is HIMSELF.  His reward is with Him.  He is the Tree of Life.  All who have grown upon Him: the true vine, will be granted access to the Kingdom of Heaven that comes from above- the New Jerusalem:

Revelation 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Revelation 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

The only way into the New Jerusalem: the Kingdom of Heaven, is by Yahshua: the Door, the Word, the Spirit and the LIFE- the True Vine that bears that fruit of righteousness.

John 15:1-10 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.  Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.  I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.  If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.  Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

The true vine bears true fruit.  The bad vine (the tares sown) bears the fruit of destruction, because unless we abide IN YASHUA and HIS Word, we will be cast off.  Paul is saying that the creature is awaiting the glory to be manifest: the manifestation of the sons of God.  The creature?  Yes.  The saints of Yahweh?  No.  The saints aren't awaiting the manifestation of the sons of God.  Instead, they are awaiting the Kingdom of Heaven to come.  The manifestation Paul is speaking of, is the coming of Satan in all his power.  If we love Yahweh, we will keep HIS Word and His Commandments, not Paul's which lead all the creatures (the beast) to war against Yahshua at His coming.  Please read chapter seven if you haven't already. 

Romans 8:27-28 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

Whoever is called of Yahweh, will do the will of Yahweh.  Whoever is called of Him, has heard His Word; which is His VOICE.  All who do love Yahweh are blessed because they keep His commandments, not anyone else's.  All things work to the Good of Yahweh; because He has purposed all things and His wisdom is unsearchable.  If we are part of the true vine, we will stand before the Son of man when He comes in all His kingdom, but if we are connected to the counterfeit jesus, that Paul preaches, we will be cast off and gathered for the fire. 

Romans 8:29-31 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.  What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

Not all who have been forknown, are destined to be glorified and what image is Paul referring to?  He is referring to the image of the false christ: the one Paul preaches; who we are dead with.  The image of the false Jesus is the image Paul has painted for us, of who Jesus is, but it's a lie, since the real Yahshua didn't abolish the law of Yahweh, thus free us from the law of Yahweh.  Only Paul's "Jesus" did. Paul preaches we are justified by faith, not by doing the will of Yahweh, so no one will be justified by Yahweh, if they believe Paul.  Yahweh is not for anyone who doesn't love Him and keep His Word.  He is against them.

Romans 8:32-34 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

First of all, Yahshua willingly came here and willingly laid His own body down as the LIVING sacrifice for our sins against the Spirit of Truth: which IS HE.  All things are freely given us; in Paul's vain mind- even the Kingdom of Heaven if we "just believe" Paul.  Who are Yahweh's elect?  They are the ones He knows and who know Him by HIS Word- who keep His Word and do His commandments- those works of the law which Paul continually preaches are dead to us now, since we are a law unto ourselves.

How does Yahweh justify His people?  By putting His Word inside of us: HIS Word and therefore, giving us Spiritual Life.  Yahshua is that Life.  If we eat of His body: the bread that came down from heaven, we will not hunger after righteousness, because by His body, we are forgiven when we listen to Him and return to Yahweh.  He IS the right Hand of Yahweh- the Righteous Arm.  He did die and He did rise again and He does have mercy on those who love Him and keep His commandments.  He does redeem His children from the bondage of the enemy who twists His Words to his own gain and causes all the world to worship the Dragon instead of HIM.  Only HE is LIFE.  No amount of attributing His LIFE to a false Jesus, will ever erase the fact, that HE IS and nobody else IS. 

Romans 8:35-36 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Disobedience to Yahweh will separate us from the love of Yahshua.  Yahweh, Himself, will throw all whores into a bed of tribulation and that is the truth.  Only they who walk in obedience to the Spirit of TRUTH, are in His love, no matter how hard Paul tries to persuade us that all who use Yahweh as an excuse to sin, will be saved.  Who are killed all the day long for His Sake- and accounted as sheep for the slaughter?  Not Paul's followers, but Yahweh's children.  Paul should get that straight.  Yahweh's children are they who love Him and keep His commandments and who have the TESTIMONY of Yahshua. 

Romans 8:37-39 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.  For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I'm very glad Paul is so 'persuaded' but the truth is, disobedience to the Word of Yahweh, which is His law and His commandments; eg. His Spirit and His LIFE, will surely separate us from the Love of Yahshua, who IS the Word of Yahweh. 

Exodus 32:32-33 Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written. And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.

Deuteronomy 29:20 The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven.

Psalms 69:27-28 Add iniquity unto their iniquity: and let them not come into thy righteousness. Let them be blotted out of the book of the living, and not be written with the righteous.

Paul should have told the truth about Yahweh.  Yahweh is righteous and He will not justify they who hate Him and despise His Word: His commandments and His testimony.  He will not let the wicked go unpunished, except if they repent and return to Him with all their hearts, might, mind and strength.  He is Just and compassionate Elohim who is merciful, kind and forgiving of they who humble themselves before Him and repent of despising Him.  He is His Word.  If we do not keep His Word and do what He commands, we have been deceived if we think He will not cast us off the True Vine.  He will.  He said He will.  Whoever overcomes all these lies and liars who tell us we can gain access to the Kingdom of Heaven except by the Door, will be granted forgiveness and He will put His Spirit in them so they will do His Word.

Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

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